I can't claim any great knowledge of philosophers but it's the ideas themselves that either leave me cold or pull me in. Perhaps, in the terms of your piece, I am in a state of liminality waiting to resolve into a structure that makes sense to me. The idea that resonates most here is the way the ritual of liminality creates authentic relationship which must always jar with the structures of institutions that have been created as part of a power structure predicated on a hierarchical view of relating to others. The only coherent resolution of liminality is to create structures based on empathy and respect for others; based on a sense of commonality and community. This seems so far from where we are now where not only individualism but exceptionalism is revered. This, it seems to me, is not just a late 20th Century phenomenon but something that has been around - at least in the ruling classes - for many centuries. I wonder, though, whether this is really just the disappointment that many of us feel from a very young age in ourselves. A yearning to be special that has never been satisfied or a sense of self that has been eroded by constant negative judgements from those who matter to us. Whether you are viewing the world from the spot where you sit and beg from a public who largely ignore you or from your sales office where your 100k + salary compares so unfavourably with sales person of the month you have learned to value possessions more than people. In the same way you rarely find love from sex or respect from power. As adults we are in dire need of some liminal ritual to bring us back to ourselves so our children won't need it too.
but there is something unsettling and unnerving about the leftist movement, it isn't as pure as for example the french revolution, ofc im not praising violence and complete upheaval of structure, but the modern leftist movement is in a sense very irrational, whatever lens you look at it from, and it is extremely fishy due to all its links with foreign(especially communist) fundings.
Do you all think the same, or am I slightly biased?
Can Structure come from the Leftist camp? They just seem so anti-structure these days. And the last time they went big on Structure, the result was communism.
I think that reciprocal relationships matter more than social structure or the lack of it, at least to me.
I have never felt the need to have a powerful God or structure greater than me. Maybe when I was a teenager or in my early 20s I might have felt the need to belong to something bigger, but it must have faded away.
The only thing I am sure that makes me feel nihilistic is seeing people suffer around me and being unable to help because I work endless hours on a job that is meaningless and sucks the life out of me.
So I can't imagine how struggle for survival could ever give meaning to anyone.
Maybe if I never had to work and didn't care about anyone else I would be happy or nihilistic or something entirely different.
I came across your site via The Abbey of Misrule. That having been said please find four related sites each of which provide a multi- faceted perspective on the nature of the human situation in this time and place. The philosophers and social theorists (etc) featured on these sites are seldom, if ever, even mentioned in any of the substacks that link into The Abbey - Charles Eisenstein being a notable exception. And of course in any of the usual "religious" and philosophical chit-chat generated in the mainstream left-brained academy
It could also be said that new paradigms always emerge from the margins.
I can't claim any great knowledge of philosophers but it's the ideas themselves that either leave me cold or pull me in. Perhaps, in the terms of your piece, I am in a state of liminality waiting to resolve into a structure that makes sense to me. The idea that resonates most here is the way the ritual of liminality creates authentic relationship which must always jar with the structures of institutions that have been created as part of a power structure predicated on a hierarchical view of relating to others. The only coherent resolution of liminality is to create structures based on empathy and respect for others; based on a sense of commonality and community. This seems so far from where we are now where not only individualism but exceptionalism is revered. This, it seems to me, is not just a late 20th Century phenomenon but something that has been around - at least in the ruling classes - for many centuries. I wonder, though, whether this is really just the disappointment that many of us feel from a very young age in ourselves. A yearning to be special that has never been satisfied or a sense of self that has been eroded by constant negative judgements from those who matter to us. Whether you are viewing the world from the spot where you sit and beg from a public who largely ignore you or from your sales office where your 100k + salary compares so unfavourably with sales person of the month you have learned to value possessions more than people. In the same way you rarely find love from sex or respect from power. As adults we are in dire need of some liminal ritual to bring us back to ourselves so our children won't need it too.
but there is something unsettling and unnerving about the leftist movement, it isn't as pure as for example the french revolution, ofc im not praising violence and complete upheaval of structure, but the modern leftist movement is in a sense very irrational, whatever lens you look at it from, and it is extremely fishy due to all its links with foreign(especially communist) fundings.
Do you all think the same, or am I slightly biased?
Can Structure come from the Leftist camp? They just seem so anti-structure these days. And the last time they went big on Structure, the result was communism.
Great piece thank you.
Made me wonder what gives meaning to me.
I think that reciprocal relationships matter more than social structure or the lack of it, at least to me.
I have never felt the need to have a powerful God or structure greater than me. Maybe when I was a teenager or in my early 20s I might have felt the need to belong to something bigger, but it must have faded away.
The only thing I am sure that makes me feel nihilistic is seeing people suffer around me and being unable to help because I work endless hours on a job that is meaningless and sucks the life out of me.
So I can't imagine how struggle for survival could ever give meaning to anyone.
Maybe if I never had to work and didn't care about anyone else I would be happy or nihilistic or something entirely different.
I came across your site via The Abbey of Misrule. That having been said please find four related sites each of which provide a multi- faceted perspective on the nature of the human situation in this time and place. The philosophers and social theorists (etc) featured on these sites are seldom, if ever, even mentioned in any of the substacks that link into The Abbey - Charles Eisenstein being a notable exception. And of course in any of the usual "religious" and philosophical chit-chat generated in the mainstream left-brained academy
It could also be said that new paradigms always emerge from the margins.
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http://www.andrewharvey.net
http://integrallife.com
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